Case 2402847/2022 · Employment Tribunal
Ms Lesley Ham v Citizens Advice Bureaux (Salford) HELD AT: Manchester — 2025
- Case reference
- 2402847/2022
- Decision date
- 5 June 2025
- Jurisdiction
- England & Wales
- Judge
- Employment Judge Mellor
- Panel members
- Mr A Gill, Mr J Flynn
Parties
2 namedClaimant
Ms Lesley Ham
Key findings
Tribunal's reasoningMs Lesley Ham had worked for Citizens Advice Bureaux (Salford) since 2014 and became a permanent Advice Service Manager. The tribunal found there had been increasing relationship difficulties from 2017, and that the more serious disputes arose during the Covid period when the respondent was reorganising work, premises and duties in response to lockdown, funding constraints and recruitment difficulties. It accepted that the claimant's role changed over time, but found the respondent repeatedly told her that she remained an ASM and that no reduction in hours had been imposed.
The direct age discrimination and age harassment complaints failed. The tribunal found that the 'bus' comment about keeping records up to date, the remark 'I bet Lesley thinks we are all ageist', the employment-role discussions, the disabled employment queue, the MAS training issue and the later email exchanges were not treatment because of age. In the tribunal's view, where the events occurred at all, they were explained by the claimant's role, the need to manage casework and records, and broader operational issues rather than by her age. It also found that the alleged harassment did not meet the statutory test because the conduct was not related to age and, where relevant, would not reasonably have had the proscribed effect.
The victimisation claim also failed. The tribunal accepted that the claimant's grievance of 11 November 2021, which referred to ageism and younger staff, was a protected act, and that the issue was later developed in the ET claim presented on 28 April 2022. However, it found that the later matters the claimant relied on were not because she had done those protected acts. Instead, the respondent's actions were found to be responses to the claimant's repeated challenges to management, disputes about her role and duties, and the deterioration of trust on both sides.
On dismissal, the tribunal accepted the respondent's case that the reason was some other substantial reason, namely an irretrievable breakdown in trust and confidence. Applying section 98 ERA 1996 and considering the size and resources of the charity, it found the dismissal fair. The tribunal concluded that the respondent had tried over a long period to repair the relationship, had offered options including mediation, and had no realistic alternative role or location to offer. The holiday pay claim failed because the claimant had asked for pay in lieu of notice, and the written reasons claim failed because the dismissal letter of 22 November 2022 set out the reason for dismissal. All claims were dismissed.
Claims and outcomes
6 findings recorded| Claim type | Issue or finding | Outcome | Protected characteristic | Award |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Age discrimination | The tribunal rejected the allegations said to amount to direct age discrimination, including the 'bus' comment, the 'I bet Lesley thinks we are all ageist' remark, the handling of her role and hours, the employment work queue, training allocation, and later email comparisons. It found the respondent's actions were explained by role and workload issues, not age. | Dismissed | Age | — |
| Harassment | The tribunal found the alleged age-related harassment was either not made out on the facts or was not unwanted conduct related to age. It held the relevant comments and emails were about case management, recruitment, or the claimant's role, and did not meet the statutory test. | Dismissed | Age | — |
| Victimisation | The tribunal accepted that the 11 November 2021 grievance reference to ageism and younger staff was a protected act, and that the claim issued on 28 April 2022 was also a protected act. It nevertheless found the later detriments were not because of those protected acts, but arose from the ongoing breakdown in the working relationship and the claimant's role disputes. | Dismissed | Age | — |
| Unfair dismissal | The tribunal held the dismissal was for some other substantial reason, namely an irretrievable breakdown in trust and confidence, and that the employer acted reasonably under section 98 ERA 1996. It found the respondent had tried over many months to repair the relationship, offered options and mediation, and had no realistic alternative. | Dismissed | — | — |
| Holiday pay |
Legal tests applied
9 references- s.13 Equality Act 2010
- s.26 Equality Act 2010
- s.27 Equality Act 2010
- s.98(1) ERA 1996
- s.98(4) ERA 1996
- some other substantial reason (SOSR)
- Ezsias v North Glamorgan NHS Trust
- Alexis v Westminster Drug Project
- Matthews v CGT IT UK
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